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here you can link up to our twitter and facebook page. make your voice heard, thank you for watching and everybody have a wonderful weekend. we'll see you back here on monday night. ♪ >> michael: coming up on the friday edition of the "the young turks," mitt romney is the bully and his classmates are telling all. >> went down the hall, and you know you hold the scissors close to his ear and you make a lot of snipping sounds, and it may traumatize the guy a little. >> michael: plus, remember this? mitt romney caught in the act before an appearance on fox news. >> michael: yes, he said i'll take the pink one. is mitt romney gay bashing? we'll have more with what we call bullying. and then we have the story
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that america is talking about on "time" magazine, the cover of the pregnant woman who has america talking about breast-feeding. >> look closely at this photo. nope, your eyes are not playing tricks. a 26-year-old mother from los angeles is breast-feeding her nearly four-year-old son. >> michael: this is the tyt supreme court into session. get ready for that. get ready for a fantastic show on "the young turks" because now it's go time. ♪ >> michael: you know, in every political cycle there are stories that are so big that you want to tell them and tell them over and over and make sure you get those stories right. i do believe even though it's six months ahead of the general
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election in november, this story that is coming out about mitt romney and his high school days is that kind of a story. it's a big story. it defines who he is and what it also does is it fulfills a stereotype. the stereotype of the man that we have right now. and when you hear stories from many years ago it fulfills the stereotype. that's not good news for mitt romney. "abc news" gave coverage to the latest on this story. >> according to the post romney was the ringleader in an incident where a group of boys held down a classmate and cut off his longitude blond hair because they thought he was gay. >> michael: good morning america running a story that wan in the "washington post" online and in their paper written by jason porehorowitz. it takes into account some of mitt romney's classmates. hire are one of his classmates.
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>> one of those former classmates philip maxwell now a lawyer telling abc it's something you don't forget. when i saw the look on his face, it was a look i'll never effect. when you see the look of a boy who is a perfectly innocent for being different. romney was holding a boy down and holding a scissors. it was a hack job. clumps of hair taken off. >> michael: there is no way to underestimate how heart wrenching that story is when you hear it especially from someone who was there. the "washington post" did speak to a number of men now who were boys then who partook in this. i think that one of these--we have to talk about john who has lanes died. he died in 2004 in seattle of liver cancer. his family is talking about john because he's unable to speak for himself. his sister said, when abc showed the story her eyes filled with
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tear. even if it did happen john would never have said anything. if he was still alive today he would be furious about the story. she said with tears in her eyes. his other sister said we are aggrieved that he would be used to further a political agenda. there will be no more comments from the family. i'm joined now by trisha rose and michael hastings listening to the family speak about their brother, you know it really humanizes the story, of course, and it becomes doubly sad when you know he can't speak for himself. but what trisha, do you think this still says about mitt romney? >> yes, i feel very sorry for the family. i can understand them being concerned. but it is important to see how someone who would run such a significant country in the world responds to his own behavior. he can't remember it? everybody else remembers it, and he has no memory. and in a sense he's seen running
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from a crisis. >> michael: he does. and whenever there is a cries the campaign will respond and so too will the candidate. what is the damage control coming out of the romney camp. >> this is a narrative changing event. this will shape people's impressions of him. they've been full-on damage control mode. they've gone out to find people who knew romney back in high school to defend him. they'll find surrogates who will go out and defend him. the first person they went to was stu white, a classmate of romney and an old friend. this is what white had to say. we have a graphic up here. white is still debating whether he will help the campaign remarking it's been a long time since we've been pals. that to me is one of the most damning statements anyone can actually make. my old best friend is such a horrible human being i'm not even going to come out and defend him while he's trying to win the biggest job in his life.
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they actually did find a friend of romney who would come out and say he's not a jerk. he went on abc and told them this. >> my suspicion is that they jokingly said, hey let's go cut his hair. and went down the hall. you hold the scissors close to his ear and you make a lot of snipping sounds and you may traumatize the guy a little, scare the guy a little but no harm no fall. >> that's supposed to be his friend who again, went into details about this horrible incident. so how did romney himself handle this? he tried to laugh it off. >> you know i don't--i don't remember that incident. and i'll tell you i certainly don't believe that i thought the fellow was homosexual. that was the furthest thing from my mind back in the 1960s. >> now that was on fox radio in the morning. obviously the campaign realized in immediately that was not good
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enough. they put 'ol mitt romney back on tv to give a real apology that afternoon. >> no question i did stupid things when i was in high school. obviously if i hurt anyone by virtue for that, i would be very sorry for it and apologize for it. >> michael: first of all, when you hear, trisha and michael when you hear romney laughing and you also hear him say that fellow was homosexual. it sound otherworldly in the first place. people don't say that any more. they don't speak that way. it furthers the narrative on mitt romney that he's out of touch, he's from another era, and also when you see it around this incident, it seems ugly. >> yes but it's even worse that he's not only from this era when it comes to the language of homosexuality, he's not living in the present in terms of reflecting on his behavior. we have clear evidence that he's continuing this kind of attitude and behavior in the present. let's take a look at the mole
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tape which we have from fox. the fox mole who taped it. listen to the i am film innocent immfemanat voice when he says it. >> i'll take the pink one. >> what are we talking about here. >> michael: he would have said that the a girl to himself. >> this whether it's explicit homophobia not what manhood is. it's about bully and setting boundaries, and it's disturbing. >> michael: what you can expect when this happens and it's as predictable as the sunrise is that the right wing will come back with a response, and i think always a ridiculous response. as when you look for the ridiculous you look no further than sean hannity. >> quote i'm not her boyfriend,
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i shouted. i ran up to coretta and gave her a slight shove. she staggered back and looked up at me. but still said nothing. leave me i loan i said. she was running faster and faster until she disappeared from sight. appreciative laughs rose around me and then the bell ring. >> he shoved a girl. he's bullying a girl. >> i'm surprise they have not destroyed all copies. you're not going to get an 112 page story. you're going to get nothing but paper cuts but you'll find nothing written about it because they'll refuse to cover it. the campaign headquarters for obama. >> this is amazing of what they do because they're good at it. this is from barack obama's book. it's a personal memoir and he's aaccounting a time in prep
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school in hawai'i with a classmate named coretta who was black. >> there are two main context that is they're denying. the first one, coretta, and obama himself were racially taunted consistently. they were, in fact victims. part of his response was to manage this incredible humiliation that he faced. one paragraph after the one that you just saw obama himself as you see here in "dreams of my father" says this. that he was for the rest of the afternoon, i was haunted by the look on coretta's face. some how i had been tested and found wanting. he has reflection. he has compassion. he's focusing on today's experience. by contrast mitt has none of those things. i would like in the spirit of republicans, i would like mitt to take personal responsibility. we hear it a lot from everyone
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else. >> michael: he does a terrible job of that. his apologies have been insufficient. i find--let's say he doesn't remember--as hard as we find it to be, that he does not remember it. >> i don't buy it. i think that mitt romney is lying to america right now. >> michael: let's say he isn't. let's say he really you doesn't remember. that makes it worse. how do you not remember doing something like this? the callousness carried over there. and the biographer of barack obama, he said he spoke with this coretta. and she said she did not remember that the president says he does remember. she said, he was my knight in shining armor. it's a little bit different because you have the victim or the perpetrator who is remembering it and the victim who doesn't. >> yes the picture drawn between the two candidates. on the one hand you have the president who is compassionate sympathetic it, process it is.
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and then you have mitt romney laughings it away on fox news. >> even if he doesn't remember it he's not speaking about the behavior the moral level that you want your president to reflect on. he won't disavow it. that's the most critical damning piece of evidence. >> michael: this is the major story, and another big story, the feds go after the sheriff. the shocking new civil rights allegations against everyjoe arpaio. >> that is garbage. that is garbage. i publicly in the past said i will never give in to patrol by the federal government. that is false. ♪ vaccinations save lives. >>we are very committed to the safety of our products. >>but are mandatory shots doing more harm than good? >>i see children injured every day. viral. >>how many are being sacrificed? >>see "the greater good" on
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you may know joe arpaio for his sort of reputation of hard tactics. they filed suit because they say he unlawfully profiles and discriminates against latinos. arpaio says get out of my business. that is not exactly the truth. they want to send in an independent monitor to make sure this is going on. arpaio says get out of my business. here's some of what joe arpaio says. >> they're 2058 convicted wearing their time. they're wearing pink underwear striped uniforms. >> he is joe arpaio who after four terms of the elected sheriff delights at being called "america's toughest sheriff." >> i'm an equal opportunity law enforcement and incarceratorsor. i lock everybody up. when people say why is he
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enforcing illegal immigration, it's illegal, that's why i enforce it. >> michael: now ana kasparian. >> joe arpaio has been doing this for decades. this is something that he has been known for and brags about in the media. before the department of justice released the details into their suit, joe arpaio had an interview with megan kelly on fox news. during that interview he denied any wrongdoing and resented the feds for wanting to get involved in his business. >> they say that they're finding show that latino drivers are 4 to 9 times more likely to be stopped than non-latinos by your officers. that once folks are taken to jail, hispanic are punished if they fail to understand commands in english. they are denied access to basic services like new clothes. and they are saying that they
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don't want to happen again. >> no, they want the feds to control everything i do. and first of all, why don't they give us the information that they have on a 22-page report? that's all they did, and went public with it in december 15th. why don't they give us the information so that we can tell them what the true story is and that we can rectify some of the problems. they don't want to tell them. this is an one-way street with them. >> they have just released the details and they're gruesome. the story of a woman five months pregnant. she was followed into her driveway by a police officer from his department. when she refused to sit on the hood of the police car, the officer, quote, grabbed her arms, pulled them behind her back and slammed her, stomach first, into the vehicle three times. the suit also alleges that jail
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employees refer to latinos as wetbacks mexican es and stupid mexicos. when questioned, he said that's just police work. joe arpaio gave another interview and here's what he had to say. >> there is a lot of miscommunications emanating from washington, but i would like to get this resolved. i'm not going to give up the authority of the elected sheriff. i'm not going to give up my organization to the federal government. >> he doesn't want to give up his power to the federal government 37. that's what this is about for him, not racial profiling. >> michael: and probable cause is being mexican. it's not about probable cause. trisha rose, this man seems like the modern day o'connell whose tactics are supported by a
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number of people. but who still makes national news because of what he does. not only that, michael, we here the sr 1070 in arizona there's no surprise this is where that comes from. what then has to happen here? how does the department of justice move through this case and get rid of joe arpaio. >> they have to pursue as much information as possible. this is a case where we have to acknowledge that widespread police profiling and police brutality. not just against mexican americans and some people who are here perhaps without papers, but also citizens of african-american descent and other minority groups are long-standing victims of systemic police brutality. it's also about him, but it's about our willingness to defend these practices. people who might commit a crime are. >> i feel that it's gone from
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overt racism to institutional racism. targeting latinos, blacks, you know using their power to basically incarcerate them. incredible statistics. latinos in maricopa county are nine times more likely than any other group to be pulled over by police. if that's not profiling, i don't know what profiling is. >> it does remind me of mayor bloomberg's policy of stop and frisk. do we know the number of people in arizona who have been effected by these policies? how many people is this happening to on a daily basis. >> it happens regularly. there was another story by women who are accused of being here illegally. they'll detain the women and keep them in solitary confinement. not give them clean sheets after soiling themselves. sometimes the women will men straight on the sheets.
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they won't change them these are noted in the civil suit. i think it's excellent that the government is getting involved in this. this has been happening for a long time. people have been wondering how he gets away with the things that he does. he has given several media interviews where he brags about it. he's proud of it. i'm tough on crime. that's what i do. >> you're right about institutional racism. now you see the department of justice going after joe arpaio. it's a little late. it would have been nice to seen it happen before, but it's never to late to be doing the right thing. great reporting ana. thanks for that. >> michael: coming up we have a supreme court here like you would not believe at tyt. we have the most talked about mother in america when she was photographed for "time" magazine. >> you knew what you were getting into. >> i did, and i understand some are upset about this.
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>> it's go time. (vo) at the only online forum with a direct line to cenk uygur. >>if you had to vote for a republican, which one would it be? (vo) join the debate now. ♪ [gavel pounding] >> michael: welcome to the hallowed halls of the tyt supreme court. court is in session. we're talking about a 26-year-old mother from los angeles, california jamie, and she's shown on the cover of "time" magazine here breast
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feeding her nearly four-year-old son. the magazine shows an article that puts dr. bill sears, who is an advocate of "attachment parenting" into the hot seat explaining what attachment parenting is, and talking about its advantages. here is "good morning america" covering that for "abc news." >> look closely at this photo. nope, your eyes are not playing tricks. jamie is a 26-year-old mother from los angeles who is breast-feeding her almost four-year-old aaron. it's a back to nature some might say fringe way of raising kids called attachment parenting. it's sparking a heated debate. >> micel: now w onon th h tt asascicied stices ana rose we discuss an issue and we make a ruling. i want to ask you first, when you see something like this
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what do you think is going on at "time" magazine? do you think this is the right thing for them to be putting on a magazine. >> they obviously want to be provocative. "time" magazine is probably having a hard time as a weekly publication that is known for having substantive things in their magazine to keep up with twitter and minute-to-minute and instant news. so they want to be provocative. but no mom breast feeds like that. most moms do not look like that. you don't breast-feed with your hand on your hip like you're on the cover of vote "vogue." it's sexualizing something that is nurturing and something that moms do all over the world. >> jayar jackson, you're the father of a five-year-old boy. how much longer do you want your son breast-feeding. >> as long as she wants to and he will, but my mind is around the year's range. when it comes to the cover, the
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reason why it has these weird implications because we have as society that, oh my gosh that's gross. you can't do that in public. that's weird. i have no problem. be provocative. get the attention to read the article, that's fine with me. but the way it's set. it's chosen because that will make the case for people who will be grossed out. and the reason why they'll be grossed out is because we've been told to be grossed out by it. >> is this for shock or medical reality. >> it's entirely for shock. sure people want to know about attachment behavior. they'll do it more now. but look, everything that tells us about the story is in line. are you mom enough? the answer is no never because you never do enough as a mother. carry them around 24/7 sleep in the bed breast-feed until
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they're 37. it's never enough. and this mother's day anxiety boost is over the top. it's like she's a filling station. she's standing there and her breast is plugged in what are they doing there. >> michael: it is a choice that the mother has made and it does not come without its hazards. >> when asked if extended breast-feed something disturbing or wrong, she says, there are people who tell me they're going to call social services on me or it's child molestation. i really don't think i can reason with those people. >> michael: ana kasparian, do you think child services should be called? >> no. >> i think she genuinely loves her son and she has bought into this attachment parenting thing. i'm very uncomfortable with us criticizing the way she decides to parent. it's completely her decision. i do have a problem with the cover. i think it was done for shock value, and it makes the decision for the reader. it makes attachment parenting
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look creepy and weird and people have decided what to think about it before they read the article. attachment parenting has more to do than breast-feeding and how many breast-feeding pictures do they want in the magazine jeez. >> the opportunity. >> yeah. >> michael: "time" magazine would have been nicholas sarkozy losing to françois hollande. it's very different. shock value? >> titillation. >> michael: very nice. >> i think it was to draw your attention and change your mind about it. >> michael: a dissenting vote. >> i want to show you something. there is another son that this woman has who gets ignored. it's a five-year-old boy, the picture is up right now. she breast feeds both of them. so this five-year-old doesn't get as much boob time for lack
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of a better phrase as his little brother, but he does according to the "time" article breast feeds once a month. it doesn't stop at the three-year-old who is on the cover, but yes. >> michael: does that change any opinions. >> it doesn't change mine. >> michael: no opinions change in the court? >> though answer your question shock value yes. >> michael: i concur that it is in fact, shock value. that's why "time" magazine it on there. they need to sell "time" magazines and they don't do that much any more. that's why they did that. there have been responses from hollywood on that. >> alyssa milano was on twitter. this is what she tweets. no, you missed the mark. you're supposed to make it easier for breast-feeding moms. your cover is exploitive and extreme. then joanna khupaa model, says that time magazine cover is pretty disturbing. breast-feed three-year-old woman is wrong. first of all, i don't believe
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this woman has a child. she is a model. exactly. and it's probably the reaction that most people are giving across the world or the u.s. because honestly i think this is the only place that breast-feeding is so provocative. i was talking to my mom about this because i thought i should talk to a couple of moms if i was going to talk about breast-feeding. in the ethiopian culture, it's a very conservative culture. but when it comes to breast-feeding, it's not a big deal and people do it in public. alyssa milano has a point. it does exploit something that is very natural, and peel do people do it arnold arnold the world. >> wasn't it dangerous to put that boy on the chair. >> when his friends find this picture and they bully him. >> michael: it all comes around to bullying.
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>> attachment parenting should be supported if it works and parents love it, it's a great thing. but this is another example of using women's body. we spent all week on this little chitchat. using women's body for exploitation, and even when it's a boy's mother this is where it goes. >> michael: that concludes, i will pull the gavel down on the tyt supreme court. when we come back we have the power panel, and it will be on afghanistan. there is another attack on american in afghanistan, is this any way to end a war? the power panel is next. >> first we've begun to transition to afghan responsibility for security. already nearly half the afghan people live in places where afghan security forces are moving into the lead. we will not settle for easy answers. (vo) the former governor of ny
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>> michael: where else on television can you go from a supreme court to a power panel. it's unbelievable. that's what we are here on "the young turks." we're joined by executive editor michael solomon. i'll cool him solomon, you'll understand why. and now michael hastings and you're now hastings. what we're talking about is afghanistan, the support for the war in afghanistan now to an all-time low to 27%. the president was there may 1st for a surprise visit. this is what he had to say. >> we broke the taliban's momentum. we built strong afghan security forces. we devastated al-qaida's leadership taking out their top 30 leaders. one year ago from a base here in afghanistan our troops launched the operation that killed osama bin laden. the goal that i set to defeat
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al-qaida and deny it a chance to rebuild is now within our reach. >> michael: you know, that stands in sharp contrast to what we're hearing coming out of the intelligence committee senator dianne feinstein the chairman of the intelligence committee had a very different take. here is dianne feinstein talking about afghanistan. >> do you think that comparing it to when the huge came and the president sent more troops in, is the taliban now weaker or stronger? >> i think we both say that what we found is that the tall lan is stronger. >> so how are we ever going to-- >> michael: so, hastings, i'm going to come to you first. is president obama's afghan afghanistan a big lie. >> i'm going to say it's two-thirds a big lie. have they killed al-qaida leadership?
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yes. have they broken the momentum of the taliban? no. 20 americans have been killed by afghan soldiers who were there to train. i think we moved into the propaganda stage of the president's policy and what that means is he has to convince the american public that we won so he can start bringing the troops home. that's all it is. and the more resistence he faces from people like senators feinstein and rogers, the more difficult that job will be. >> michael: michael solomon, listening to what michael hastings said here. when it comes to convincing the american public who is 27%, what does he have to do? >> i don't think he has to convince anybody. he has had a really clear policy from day one. this is--the way i look at this, this is a bad ten-year marriage. it's an awful marriage. he and karzai aid said we're getting
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out of this marriage. they're deciding to wait for the kids to get out of college and then it's over. 2014 we're out of there and that's what he's committed to. nothing that happens right now will change that. i fundamentally believe had that. i don't think a bad week, a bad two weeks or a bad month in afghanistan is going to change his policy. in looking at it and say it's getting worse, it's like friends saying why not get out of the marriage now? why not wait until the kids get out of college. >> michael: that's a great point that michael solomon says. we have have the president talking about marriage a different way at the end of the week than the beginning. but you've been to afghanistan, michael. what is it that the troops feel about this. if there is 27% support at home what are the troops thinking? >> there are a large portion of the people who are fighting who are demoralizing. we've seen it with videos, and
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the sergeant who went out and killed 17 innocent civilians. we're seeing these things that are an indication of morale and discipline, and it makes it more difficult when the president comes over and says, oh, by the way, we're almost out of here but you guys have to stay another year and maybe you're going to die. that is a very difficult leadership situation to be in. >> michael: perspectives that very few of us have. thank you for that, michael. we move on to our second topic, which is jp morgan. jp morgan reported $2 billion losses in investments gone bad. >> the biggest banks in the world and it's reeling in the wake of a whopping loss. speaking on an investor conference call chief executive jamie dimon basically said, we blew it. >> the new strategy was flawed complex, poorly reviewed poorly executed and poorly monitored.
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>> the loss stems from huge bets made on derivatives. >> the volatility for the next quarter could be high. it could cost us as much as a billion dollars or more. >> michael solomon i come to you right now. i'm wondering if jamie dimon is to blame or if obama has been soft on the bankers. >> jamie dimon has had a stellar record at jp morgan chase. he is described as the least-hated banker. [chuckling] he has done a great job at jp morgan chase. they lost $2 billion. that's a lot of money to you and me. but in fact, they made $5.4 billion in the last quarter, and they're probably going to make money this quarter. they lost $2 billion in one category. they made a billion dollars in another quarter. if they make money in the quarter how is that necessarily a bad thing. it means in this one sector,
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ironically enough this sector was meant to offset losses they might incur in other areas. they just had a bad area in one category that they cover. >> michael: michael hastings you don't fire a coach for one bad season but $2 billion is a really bad season. how does this speak to obama? does obama have any reason to take blame for this kind of quarter? >> i think it's hard to put this one on obama, but what we can say there is significant--what is amazing is the question of is obama too soft on the bankers. he has been way to hard on them from a political perspective. how much tougher can he get? but in the end of the day you lose $2 billion and you can still hold your head high at a conference call maybe that makes him the least-hated banker. that would be quite an accomplishment. >> michael: it puts all my vegas
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nights in perspective. michael solomon, thank you for joining us from buy liner and michael hastings. when we come back we'll be talking about watergate and the down fall of richard nixon. >> i shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. vice president ford will be sworn in as president at that hour in this office. ♪
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♪ >> michael: we return to talk about bob woodward and carl bernstein in an extended way. back in the 1970s they became journalist rock stars. they're still at it today. they covered watergate in the 1970s and really did to a presidency what no no one else as
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a journalist done to a presidency. back in the 1970s they were so famous there was a motive made about them. all the president's men.was a movie that covers with robert redford and dustin hoffman, and we see a little bit of that film. >> i'm not looking for a fight. >> i'm not looking for a fight either. >> you've only been here for five months. >> what has that got to do with anything. >> i've been in the business for-- >> may i read yours. >> michael: " all the president's men," a movie that covered the takedown of a presidency by a newspaper and the entire washington community really at that time. what we had then was ben bradlee. ben bradlee was the editor of the "washington post," a larger than life man, and a man who gave his reporters at that time carté blanche. remember "deep throat" was the
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source for bob woodward and carl bernstein. this is bob bradlee speaking just a few years ago. >> i was there for a moment where i guess you felt, gee, i need to know-- >> well, i knew he worked in the justice department, and i knew he was right. you can never take anything right. >> after nixon resigned. >> someone said to me, do you actually know his name? i said, no, i doesn't. it occurred to me that was dumb. we had a little chat and i got his name. >> we kept his secret for more than 30 years. >> yes. >> i didn't tell my wife. >> michael: now a new book entitled "yours in truth: a personal portrait of ben bradlee" went written by jim himmelman is out. it questions a little bit about bob woodward and his reporting.
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jim, thank you for being on "the young turks." jeff, one of the interesting things i wonder if a ben bradlee like figure exists anywhere, if he's really something of the past someone who would have free rain as woodward and bernstein did? >> gosh, i think he's such a product of his year. there is no space for a ben bradlee in the newsroom any more. i don't think ben would be in the newsroom if he came of age today. the post is different than when it was ben bradlee's paper. >> michael: i also think that the idea of the editor who checks everything that is written, doesn't exist any more either. we see different ways--there are a lot of people watching who have--for whom watergate is a distant memory if anything. it's just a footnote in the history book right now. i remember the real--as a child the real sort of drama of watergate, but right now is there any place where that kind
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of sort of oversight happens where you have a relationship between reporters in the blogosphere with an editor. does that exist at all or is he the last lion. >> i can't speak to the blogosphere that much. one of the things about the watergate story when you dig into it is how many layers of oversight there were. while they got the credit, they had editors and managing editors. ben stepped in when he had to steer the ship and take the heat but one of the things that made that journalism stand the test of time there were so many people with their hands in it. >> michael: can you tell me some of the most interesting anecdotes in your book that i've seen. everybody seems scared of ben bradlee, but he was actually a gentle guy when you walked into his office. one part, a writer went in there and said it was the most important five minutes of your
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day. it didn't matter. it was ben bradlee. >> for everyone who came into ben bradlee's office, it was the most important five minutes of their day and he had that five minutes with everybody else. he had a master of his aura, his charisma as a tool to maximize the "washington post." that's why the post had so much personality under him because he exerted so much of it on the people who came into his office. >> michael: as is the coziness every called into question as it would be today? >> his closeness was really questioned back when he was covering journal f concerned. they were friend. they lived four doors away from each other and ben himself said in an interview in 1969, he said we became too close. i began to protect my friends. you can't let friendship interfere with history. >> michael: that's a fantastic line. i want to ask you very quickly about bob woodward and some of the ideas about deep throat that
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we've heard that maybe it wasn't legitimate. can you tell us quickly what that was like? >> sure, i uncovered an interview that ben had done in 1990 while executive editor of the post. he said, quote there is a residual fear in my soul that that isn't quite straight. what he was referring to was the hollywoodization of the deep throat. what he was saying, you can't hold me to the hollywood version. they're writing the book for a publishing house and it was difference than the "washington post." >> michael: the book is called "yours in truth: a personal portrait of ben bradlee," jeff himmelman's book. thank you for being on "the young turks." we go now to eliot spitzer and viewpoint. what is on the show tonight. >> eliot: i have one of my favorite congressmen here from new york. where else could he be from? he'll talk about all this stuff that is happening on cap pal capitol
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hill. and morgan chase losing more money in a day than you can even think about spending in a lifetime. andwe'll be discussing that. so much else. it will be a great show. >> michael: thank you, governor. >> eliot: have a great weekend. >> michael: you, too. "the young turks" will be right back.
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